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Loved this episode, ladies! Another of the Old Testament brotherhood connections that I hadn’t thought of until today is the Isaac/Ishmael storyline. Especially interesting to connect given that Charles and Adam have different mothers. I love your point that he throws in allusions but leaves us to connect a lot of the dots, and the fact that he gives us these biblical stories/allusions that aren’t perfect, but totally beg the connection, is SO intriguing.

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Okay so now we have Abraham to Jacob covered….anyone got any Noah’s ark connections?

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1. really do want to try Steinbeck’s notebook. I hadn’t known it existed until rereading EOE with you guys

2. I love the idea of the two worlds (reality and fairytale/mythic). Reminding me of current detective fiction read and how classic detective fiction works also have that fairy tale element

3. Jenna’s reading of the Cathy/Fay dynamic was so helpful to me-when I first read this book in high school I struggled so hard with Cathy and how disturbing she was, so I really appreciated a deeper read on her.

4. Love the phrase “the curse is the cure,” absolutely will be remembering that

5. With the question of women/misogyny I also think there is an element of the more capacity a thing has for good, the worse it is when it turns to evil. In a sense, Cathy shows how powerful women can be for good/the importance of women to society because of her impact as a twisted woman-she is the evil mirror of what women can and should be

6. I am so glad to have read this book with Reading Revisited-it really was a gift to come back to something I didn’t like the first time around (though I could tell that it was an objectively good/important work of literature) and discover that there was actually so much to love about it

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This is one of those books that as I finish it, I know I will read it again. What a gift it was to read together. Loved your insights at book club (on this book, and the others), Elise. So glad we're reading together!

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